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Rheinmetall construieste cea mai moderna fabrica de pulberi

Sursa: Rheinmetall via hartpunkt.de

Ianuarie 2023:

Rheinmetall also eyes the operation of a new powder plant, possibly in the eastern German state of Saxony, but the investment of 700 to 800 million euros would have to be footed by the government in Berlin, he said.
“The state has to invest, and we contribute our technological know-how. In return, the state gets a share of the plant and the profits it makes,” Papperger suggested.
“This is an investment that is not feasible for the industry on its own. It is an investment into national security, and therefore we need the federal state,” he said.

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Prost sa fii, noroc cu UE si, mai ales, Rheinmetall

Vine banul la baiat? Asa se pare, deoarece UE a acceptat proiectul depus de Rheinmetall si Romarm pentru constructia unei fabrici de pulberi de artilerie, finantat cu EUR47mil din bugetul de EUR500mil al ASAP.

ASAP-factsheet

De notat cat de bine s-au pozitionat germanii de la Rheinmetall, reusind sa “aspire” circa EUR130mil, adica vreo 25% din bugetul ASAP prin intermediul diverselor proiecte. Cine imparte, parte-si face.
Semnarea contractelor de finantare este asteptata pentru luna Mai, nu-i graba. Deocamdata mai exista unele elemente ale afacerii care nu au fost inca facute publice, de exemplu care va fi structura noii societati, daca va fi un greenfield sau retehnologizarea fabricilor existente la Fagaras, sau daca se vor produce inclusiv combustibili solizi pentru rachete sau doar pulberi de artilerie, etc…

Dar ce e ASAP (Act in Support of Ammunition Production), ce vrea el de la noi si de ce doar EUR500mil? Cu cuvintele lor:

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Romarm risca sa fie exclusa de la participarea in licitatiile publice pentru o perioada de cinci ani pentru ca nu si-a indeplinit obligatiile de offset ce decurg din contractul Beretta pentru pistoalele livrate MAI.

Va intrebati probabil cum am ajuns aici.

Defapt.ro a publicat o serie de articole de investigatie pe subiect care pot fi citite pe larg aici: 1, 2, 3 si 4 .

Pe scurt lucrurile par a fi (pentru ca inca sint unele necunoscute) cam asa:

2019 – Niculae Badalau (PSD) este ministru al Economiei si vine cu proiectul de fabricare a armelor de asalt Beretta ARX160 la Plopeni. De ce Beretta? Nimeni nu stie, nu se ofera nici o explicatie. Probabil se merge pe principiul ca rumanii n-or sa puna prea multe intrebari, mai ales daca “se fabrica in tara“. Zvonurile spun ca ARX ar fi fost testata comparativ de MApN si nu ar fi iesit nici pe primul loc dar nici pe ultimul. Nici prea-prea, nici foarte-foarte. Lipsa de entuziasm a “clientului” a fost comunicata clar prin nealocarea nici macar a unui leu vechi pentru o asemenea achizitie. La randul lor, Romarm a continuat sa pileasca de zor la noua arma de asalt 100% romaneasca pe schelet soviet (AKM 2.0). Singurul care pare sa fi avut vreun interes este deci ministrul Economiei.

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Asa-i cand n-ai lucrul tau: dronele kamikaze

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…te uiti la dronele kamikaze ale altora. Warmate – Sursa: Wikipedia

Ca sa nu ramanem din nou (a se observa tendinta) fara drone kamikaze, Romarm a decis sa coopereze cu un partener extern pentru o eventuala productie locala.

Dar mai intai putina istorie. In Octombrie 20:22 este publicat anuntul SEAP de incepere a licitatiei pentru achizitia a 3 sisteme de drone kamikaze, numite pretios si “Sistem de munitie cu capacitate de supraveghere prin survolare (de tip loitering)“, cu o valuare estimata de RON8.224.995, castigatorul urmand sa fie decis pe baza pretului cel mai scazut.
In Decembrie acelasi an, “Procedura de atribuire a fost anulata in temeiul art. 181 ali (1) lit. b), respectiv nu a fost depusa nici o oferta“. Adica rezultatul obisnuit.

Cineva cu mai putina valuare ar fi incercat poate sa schimbe procedura de atribuire. Nu insa si autoritatea contractanta. Cu aceeasi determinare ca a unui impatimit al pacanelelor care si-a pus gaj pe casa, autoritatea contractanta isi face cruce, scuipa-n san si mai baga o fisa, incepand in August 20-23 o noua procedura pentru achizitia a 3 complete “Sistem de muniție cu capacitate de supraveghere prin survolare (de tip loitering)“, in valoare estimata de…da, tot RON8.224.995.

Durata contractului insa creste de la 12 la 46 de luni. Probabil ca respectivele drone sint clonate intr-un laborator si au nevoie de timp pentru a ajunge la maturitate, altfel nu se poate explica de ce am primi doar cate un singur “complet” (adica sistem?) pe an. Totusi, vorbim de un tip de munitie, un consumabil care ar trebui sa poata fi produs intr-o cadenta mare, altfel nu ar avea sens achizitia.

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Viitorul LAROM: Tohan si reactiunea

Cel mai frecvent, cheia cresterii razei de actiune a sistemelor de artilerie reactiva este considerata tehnologia motoarelor cu combustibili compoziti, mult mai eficienti decat cei clasici, DB. In realitate, motoarele racheta “compozite” sint necesare, nu insa si suficiente. Sa facem un calcul.

Ce se da – sisteme GRAD clasice, care nu au fost proiectate pentru precizie, fiind undeva spre limita eficientei intr-un context modern.

Ce se cere – problema de trei simpla:

  • razboiul modern necesita sisteme de artilerie reactiva de mare precizie
  • precizia depinde puternic de distanta de tragere
  • folosirea unui motor racheta compozit care dubleaza distanta de tragere a unui GRAD clasic inseamna reducerea exponentiala a preciziei

Nimic extraordinar pana acum. Dar rezultatul implicit e ca montarea motoarelor racheta cu combustibil compozit, singura, nu poate fi considerata o solutie completa pentru modernizarea LAROM. Cealalta componenta a solutiei este ghidarea munitiei, aspect mai putin discutat.

Zvonurile rautacioase zic ca Romania, ca utilizator, nu ar fi complet straina de asemenea munitie insa, in mod oficial, nu detinem decat munitie neghidata, LAR-160 si GRAD-ul clasic. Faptul ca un producator local face pasi in directia asta este o noutate. Solutia tehnica (ghidarea gazodinamica sau RCSreaction control system) adoptata de Tohan este insa extrem de neobisnuita pentru munitia de 122mm. Se cunosc, bineinteles, sisteme AA care folosesc tehnologia respectiva, inclusiv PAC-3 insa foarte putine sisteme de rachete de artilerie (de orice calibru) folosesc ghidarea gazodinamica, vasta majoritate optand pentru ghidarea cu control aerodinamic (cu suprafete de comanda aero mobile). Asta reduce foarte mult lista partenerilor care ar putea ajuta Tohan cu tehnologie.

Practic, vorbim de AccuLAR-160 israelian, Vilkha ukrainian si nu prea multe alte sisteme cunoscute.

Cine este deci misteriosul donator de tehnologie?

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E pur si muove, episodul 10

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Vine fata licenta la baiat? – Sursa: Sonaz

La sfarsitul lui AD 20:22, Guvernul a aprobat planul de reorganizare/restructurare a Carfil.

Documentul este referentiat la sfarsitul postarii, dar sa vedem mai intai principalele puncte, ordonate un pic mai altfel, cu cuvintele lor dar chibitand de pe margine:

S. CARFIL S.A. dorește să devină unul din liderii europeni în sistemele de armament și de muniții în viitorul apropiat. Pentru asta ne vom concentra pe următoarele domenii în care vom moderniza și vom cerceta-dezvolta următoarele sisteme de armament și muniții:

Modernizarea sistemelor de aruncătoare calibru 81/82 mm
Aruncător bombe tip-A 81/82 S, A81/82 cu bătaie mărită
Produse noi: aruncător cal. 81/82 cu țeavă lungă, cu afet bipied și dublu amortizor.

Sistemul aruncător de 81 mm, pe platforma ușor blindată 4×4 “DRAKON
– Sistemul va fi dotat cu telecomandă și sistem de conducere a focului
– Toate echipamentele vor fi produse în consorțiul CARFIL.
Proiect: Sistem integrat 4X4 LAV-M cu aruncator de 81 mm – Acronym “DRAKON”
Consorțiu: S. Carfil S.A., S.C. Stimpex S.A.- Bucharest, Pro Optica S.-Bucharest, S.C. Servosisteme S.R.L.- București , Headlightsolutions S.R.L.-Brașov, Tekfinity S.R.L – Râșnov, ATD Aerospace R.S. S.R.L.-Galați, S.C. Armtech S.A.- Curtea de Argeș, TID Group S.M.E.- București.

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A Tale of Two Cities: Cugir si Radom

Proiectul noii fabrici de arme din Radom - Sursa: msp.gov.pl

Proiectul noii fabrici de arme din Radom – Sursa: msp.gov.pl

O comparatie a evolutiei dupa 1989 a doi producatori de arme traditionali, Fabrica de Arme “Łucznik” din Radom si Uzina Mecanica din Cugir, cu accentul pus pe domeniul pistoalelor. Ambele societati sint inca detinute de grupuri industriale din proprietatea statului, Bumar in Polonia si Romarm in Romania.

Inceputul anilor ’90 a prins Romania si Polonia cu o situatie similara in ceea ce priveste dotarea cu pistoale a fortelor armate si ordine publica, constand in principal din copii mai mult sau mai putin fidele ale Walther PP: Carpati si Makarov in Romania, respectiv P-64 CZAK si P-83 Wanad in Polonia.

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